Hello. @PacMan777, I hear you mention, these titles "Crank" and "Talledega Nights" But they didn't pose a problem at all to me though they both were encrypted with the now normal cocktail of encryption. Before all of this worsened encryption found on "SAW III" & "OPEN SEASON" my method was to Run AnyDVD in the backround along side Nero 7 Recode2 which worked 95% of the time with acception of titles that are loaded with extra's that exceeded NERO's Recode2 compression limits, for those titles I would then use AnyDVD & CloneDVD2. I guess you learn something new everyday. But when any and all try this method I used they will be able to back up either SAW III or "OPEN SEASON" do keep it in mind, again it works. 18 Jan 2007 @ 19:02